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13 Things They Don’t Tell You About Eastern Europe

Dateline: Vilnius, Lithuania

The other day I stumbled on a post from some European travel blogger who described Moldova as “a hidden, must-see gem in Europe.” A “must-see gem” that’s also the poorest and most destitute country in Europe?

Such serious praise should probably belong to Lichtenstein or Andorra—not Moldova. Moldova is certainly not “a must see” country by any stretch of imagination.

This is Moldova. Does it look like a “must-see gem” to you?

Having grown up in Eastern Europe and having returned and lived here for the past 3 years, it got me thinking about the region as a whole. I realized that most often than not, the region is portrayed as some paradise on earth instead of being depicted closer to reality.

But make no mistake about it: paradise it is not. Just like any place, it has its pros and cons. And after living here for a while and going through another extremely depressing Eastern European winter, I’m starting to wonder whether the cons really outweigh the pros.

Here are some factors that are either fully ignored or are majorly downplayed when describing this region:

1. Crappy weather

Let’s start with the things that directly affect your psychological well-being: weather. Eastern Europe has four distinct seasons. The difference between seasons is not moderate but extreme: very hot and humid summers and very cold and freezing winters.

Not only are the summers scorchingly unbearable (especially in the southern regions), but to add insult to injury, you don’t really have a nice beach where you can cool off. In the north you have the Baltic Sea but the water is cold year-around. That leaves the warm shores of the Black Sea as the only viable option. But as someone who was born in a major city there, I can assure you that Black Sea beaches truly suck and come nowhere close to the pristine Mediterranean beaches.

Then the gruesome winter arrives. Temperatures start to drop fairly rapidly around late September or early October. In the peak of winter, it’s common to experience at least a foot of snow (and often much, much more). And if you’re in northern Eastern Europe (e.g., northern Russia or Baltic states), the days become very short and you can completely forget seeing any sun at all from late October to late March.

Apart perhaps from Antarctica or Siberia, I can’t think of a more depressing part of the world to spend the winter. Maybe that partly explains why Lithuania ranks second on a list of countries by suicide rate. Don’t forget to pack plenty of Prozac.

2. Unfriendly people

Just like it’s possible to meet super friendly people, it’s also possible to meet unfriendly people. Yep, unfriendly people do exist. The friendliest people I’ve ever met were in Brazil. Other super friendly nationalities are Mexicans and Colombians. People from the Balkans and Southern Europe are also pretty friendly.

But friendliness is definitely not how I would characterize Eastern Europeans. Not even in the most liberal use of that term. Eastern Europeans just aren’t huge fans of smiling and having friendly chitchats. They don’t act warmly to people they don’t know and sometimes even people they do know. Aloof. Reserved. Tough. Capable. The preceding adjectives more accurately describe Eastern Europeans.

The amount of friendliness varies across Eastern Europe: Bulgarians are friendlier than Estonians or Russians, but even Bulgarians or Romanians do not come close in friendliness of the Latin Americans. The good news is that after getting to know you, Eastern Europeans tend to open up and become a bit friendlier.

Nevertheless, the problem of being surrounded by unfriendly people is further compounded by not being able to communicate with them (see below).

3. Difficult to communicate

The majority of Eastern Europeans (except perhaps the young people from the Baltic countries) simply do not speak English at a very high level. Some don’t even speak any English period.

I’m not saying that young people do not speak any English—they do. But unless the person has lived extensively in foreign countries where English is commonly spoken (that’s tough because Ukrainians and Russia need a visa to visit European Union countries), their English would be extremely rudimentary. They wouldn’t know the Western euphemisms, jokes or anecdotes. You certainly won’t be able to hold any level of a deep conversation.

This is slowly changing as countries like Moldova and Ukraine are being oriented towards the West, but it will take another generation for them to truly reach their Western European counterparts.

4. Impossible to find specialized items

When I was in St. Petersburg last year, I decided to purchase one of those digital travel scales in order to weigh my luggage. It’s a useful device because by weighting your luggage before checking it in at the airport, you can save money in overweight fees.

I think I spent around around four or five hours scouring every travel store in the city only to come back empty handed. The stores I visited sold all kinds of luggage, but not a digital scale. And this is St. Petersburg I’m talking about—a city of over 5 million people—not some little village in the middle of nowhere. I can’t imagine having better luck in the smaller cities in countries such as Ukraine, Romania or Bulgaria.

Perhaps it’s a luxurious item that Eastern Europeans simply do not need. Perhaps such items exist in Eastern Europe, but I didn’t go to the right stores. Both of these are plausible possibilities. The bottom line is that I couldn’t find something in a large Eastern European city that’s readily available in most mid-size department stores all over New York.

This isn’t limited to specialized gadgets like digital travel scales; it affects all kinds of non-essential goods that you take for granted in the West. Whereas in America, you can walk into a large supermarket like Walmart and buy everything you need, or you can hop onto Amazon.com and order cheap gadgets, you simply can’t do that easily in Eastern Europe. And if you get lucky and discover that such an item is available, there’s a good chance that it’ll cost you twice or three times the amount you’d pay in America (or Western Europe).

The flipped side is that this new life without “luxury items” could be a good thing because it will mean saving money by spending it only on the very essentials.

5. Poor infrastructure

I’ve never before considered European countries to be part of the third world. “The third world” is typically associated with underdeveloped countries of Latin America, Africa and Southeast Asia. But if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then shouldn’t be a duck? Using that argument, Eastern Europe can easily be considered as undeveloped as any third world country.

For instance, outside of the Baltics, you can forget about doing mundane things such as drinking water from the tap. In St. Petersburg, I spent a week in October with absolutely no hot water. Not able to drink tap water or consistently enjoy hot showers is something I can understand if I was in Kenya or Mozambique but not in a European country.

6. Ugly, crumbling architecture

Travel bloggers love to sell you Eastern Europe by showing pristine pictures of picturesque old towns with their beautiful architecture and narrow cobblestone streets. They are right: the old towns are truly fantastic gems. Here in Vilnius, the old town is nothing short of magical. Same goes for Latvia’s capital, Riga.

What they don’t tell you, however, is that these old towns are tiny; they can be easily covered in an hour or two by foot, and then you’re suddenly located in another world, a world of crumbling Communist era “building parks,” a world of rusting trolleybuses that look like they’re about to break down any minute, a world of broken street pavement, a world devoid of street lights, forcing you to reach for your flashlight as you walk home in the night—a completely different world that unsurprisingly doesn’t make it to the laminated travel brochures.

While I liked Bulgaria as a whole, I was so disenchanted with its capital, Sofia, that I decided to award it the prize of “one of Europe’s most ugliest cities.” Sofia is grey, ugly, the street pavement is broken, giving the whole city a kind of permanent “unfinished and abandoned” feel. That was around two years ago, and I still stand by what I’ve said. St. Petersburg is a gorgeous city, but step outside the city’s bounds and you’re pretty much in the middle of Soviet Union.

But Bulgaria is in EU and St. Petersburg is one of Russia’s richest cities, so I can’t even (or don’t want to) imagine what rural parts of a poorer country such as Ukraine, Belarus or Moldova look like.

The harsh reality is that apart from the charming old towns, which are usually too small and insignificant to serve as anything meaningful beyond the initial touristy sightseeing or eating at overpriced restaurants with crappy food, you’ll be living and seeing the “true” Eastern Europe—most of it frozen in time, Soviet Union time.

7. Unpredictably dangerous

Having been to some seedy areas of the world (e.g., parts of Brazil, Central America), Eastern Europe is certainly not the most dangerous region on Earth, but that doesn’t mean it’s extremely safe either. The Baltic countries are pretty safe for the most part, although there are seedy areas. Russia and Ukraine are definitely more dangerous. They’re simply more unpredictable.

Things that I don’t think twice about doing in the West, such as carrying my laptop around in plain view (in a laptop case) at night, are some of the things that I would think twice before doing in countries like Ukraine or Russia. There’s simply no guarantee that someone will not stop me on the street and demand my valuables, especially valuables that constitute a considerable chunk of the average person’s monthly salary.

One important accomplishment about the Western world is its victorious fight against racism, xenophobia and anti-Semitism. Scandinavia is the most “progressive” in this regard because you can be a Somali immigrant who’s literally fresh of the boat and you won’t be treated any differently than a native Danish guy with spiky blonde hair.

Eastern Europe is far from being this “progressive.” The culprit is both cultural and economical: its inhabitants have far too many problems—such as putting food on the table—to concern themselves with such mundane problems as racism, xenophobia or anti-Semitism. Every prejudice associated with a particular ethnic group or race that has ever been known to man is alive and well in these countries.

8. Food sucks

Eastern Europe isn’t known for its variety of exquisite dishes. Most of the dishes are a combination of three ingredients: bread, potatoes and meat. While it’s very hearty, it’s also very flavorless. If you’re there on a short trip or in the beginning of a more extended sojourn, you might find the food interesting and even exotic, but I can guarantee that you’ll quickly get tired of it.

Once you get tired of going out and eating bland local food, you’ll have two options: go to restaurants that serve international cuisine or cook your own food. The problem with the first option is that the international restaurant scene is rather limited in Eastern Europe. While there’re plenty of international restaurants in huge cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg, you won’t have many good options in the smaller cities.

Here in Vilnius, Lithuania, a mid-sized city of half a million located in the European Union, my only reliable option is to have a decent, albeit pricy, burger. There are a couple ethnic restaurants that serve Mexican or Greek food, but they leave a lot to be desired; the Mexican food is bland, the Greek food is not only bland but also expensive. Don’t get me started on the crappy pizza or flavorless Italian food. As a result, I simply all but stopped going out and now mostly cook my own meals.

It’s situations like these that I miss living in New York. There, I can leave my apartment and eat any kind of food from pretty much any country I want, any time of the day, any day of the week, and within any price range. I also remember fondly my days of living in Brazil and Argentina, where I constantly ate fantastic churrasco or juicy steak, respectively.

If you like food with flavor (please remind me how spicy food tastes) or are a vegetarian, you’ll have a pretty difficult time in Eastern Europe.

9. No handholding

One of the biggest cultural shocks that I experienced in Russia was the complete lack of lack of customer service or basic handholding. I asked someone on the metro to explain to me how the metro card works (it’s more complicated than a MetroCard or Oyster Card). The reply was very blunt and obvious. In other words, the guy told me that I already knew without being helpful at all.

The guy wasn’t rude of disrespecting. He was simply communicating as he normally would. If you go into a Eastern European restaurant, point at a meat dish, and ask them what kind of meat it is, they would simply tell you it’s meat. On the other hand, in America, the person behind the counter would easily use at least twenty adjectives to describe the meat (i.e., how it was cooked, how it tastes, etc.).

This applies to pretty much everything. Various explanations, assistance and handholding that you’ve previously taken for granted will simply be met with one or two word “obvious” answers, answers that you already knew, answers that make you feel like an idiot.

At first you’d take this as rudeness and lack of helpful customer service, but after a while, you’ll toughen up and become more independent and sovereign. Oh, and perhaps this might push you to realizing that you were treated like a dumb and clueless automaton in your native Western country all this time.

10. Women aren’t as easy you think

One of the biggest reasons (maybe the biggest reason) that single men travel to Eastern Europe is for the affectionate and feminine women—all but an endangered species in the consumer-driven West. There’s some truth to that. The women can be described in one simple word: traditional. They behave how all women have traditionally behaved in the past before the toxicity of Western “values” began to seep into their brains. (For a fun experiment, observe what happens to a Eastern European woman who has spent many years in America.)

But it’s not all peaches and cream in paradise. Traditional women means traditional relationships. And that means you have to forget about Western inventions such as “sex with no string attached” and start reacquainting yourself with the lost art of actual dating—you know, such as opening doors, going out to dinners and actually paying for them.

So, if you don’t want an “independent” woman because she’s so independent that she doesn’t need to you, and, instead, you want a traditional woman, you’ll have to actually learn to devote time to her before you’re rewarded with her feminine charm and gifts.

And for all the guys who think that Eastern Europe is overflowing with easy women (not true), and that alone compensates for everything that makes Eastern Europe suck, my response is always the same: I shrug and realize that I’m dealing with someone who simply has never been to Eastern Europe.

11. There are no rules

Many words and terms are used to describe Eastern Europe: corruption, nepotism, kleptocracy, lack of rule of law, etc. Those are all accurate. The reason they’re applicable is because Eastern Europe is a place without much rules or laws. It’s like the Wild West: anything can go and does. Depending on how you look at, that either makes Eastern Europe so fantastic or so nightmarish.

Few years ago, I was chilling with a good American friend (born in Ukraine) who has a business in Kiev. One sunny day, about 15 police offers entered, told everyone to stop working, and then took away all the equipment. It’s only because my friend knew some people in the city government that he was able to retrieve the equipment and resume work. I have many other examples of similar situations.

This is something that just wouldn’t happen in America, Netherlands or Denmark. There are various rules and laws that protect you, as a private individual, against unlawful seizure by the government. Sure, the authorities can attach claims to your private property if you fail to pay taxes or lose a lawsuit, but you would have adequate warning and a chance to appeal the decision.

In Eastern Europe, things are, shall we say, “closer to the metal.” Someone can come and take your stuff. Just like that. And you won’t have any recourse unless you knew someone high up on the authority food chain. The good news is that it saves the economy valuable money that would otherwise go to enrich the endless armies of lawyers. The bad news is that if you don’t have the right connections, you’ll have an array of problems.

12. There’s a real war

Eastern Europe has experienced countless wars throughout its history interrupted by brief peacetimes. Well, the peacetime is over and the region is being torn apart by another war. This time it’s a war between Ukrainian rebels and Ukrainian government in Eastern Ukraine. Many media outlets are portraying it as some “anti-terrorist operation,” but it really isn’t: it’s a true full-fledged war between two different sides and ideologies.

Many might not believe that there’s an actual war happening in one of the world’s richest and developed continents such as Europe, but I’m really surprised that the peacetime managed to last as long as it did. The only thing on my mind these days is how far this war will last and where will a new conflict arise—and the latter is not a question of “if” but of “when.”

13. Super depressing

When you take everything that I’ve written—the unbearable winter, the bland food, the unfriendly people, the crumbling infrastructure, the dire poverty, the war, regardless if the people are affected directly or indirectly—and combine it all together, what you get is a super depressing region. There’s just no other way of saying it. It’s really fucking depressing.

This is much more than just some poverty; many places are poor but the fantastic ambience and friendly people much than make up for it. Brazil may be a country with a huge income disparity, but you don’t feel this when you’re in the country, regardless if you’re in a super wealthy area like Ipanema or some poor favela. The weather is amazing. The food is savory. The people are happy and full of joy.

Unsurprisingly, I’ve always experienced a huge relief every time I returned to Western or Central Europe. I remember how much happier I was when I first flew from Kiev to Venice. As I stepped outside the Italian airport, I felt as though all this huge weight was lifted from my shoulders. I could breathe easier again. I finally saw people smiling and enjoying themselves. I experienced the same thing when I flew from Bucharest to Barcelona. Even landing in Belgrade (not a wealthy city by any stretch of imagination) after a flight from Moscow recharged me in some mysterious ways.

Matches your values

Having said all that, I’m not bashing Eastern Europe. I don’t hate Eastern Europe. I don’t have a grudge against Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe is a place where I was born and is still more or less my spiritual home. I actually deeply respect Eastern Europe and its people.

My reasons for appreciating and respecting Eastern Europe go much further: it suits my personality. I can deal with crappy weather and depressing people. I can deal with being surrounded by ugly 5-floor Communist buildings that all look the same. I’m the kind of guy who’ll have no problems living in Siberia somewhere. I enjoy “rugged” environments. I’m not used to luxuries or conspicuous consumption.

But if it didn’t suit my personality—if every day felt like a colossal struggle where I contemplated the most effective method of suicide—I would certainly have a hard time justifying spending my time there, especially when there are so many other fantastic and bright destinations in the world such as Brazil or Thailand.

After all, that’s just one of the innumerable joys of being a maverick traveler: you’re not limited to a particular country or continent to spend your time in and the world truly becomes your oyster. You’re free to live, thrive and prosper in the land whose values match your own. And that’s the difference between actually living and merely being alive.

Update: 1/17/2018

My video response to all the criticisms and comments

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117 Comments

  1. Sounds like a pretty depressing place. I was thinking of going, but now I’m not so sure. Perhaps in the summer!

    • The blogger has lumped a bunch a countries together that are as different as can be. I am a Bulgarian American, and it sounds like you did not know we’re to go! You mentioned bad infrastructure, in Sofia we have new airport, completely renovated train station, and the best and most beautiful metrisystem in Europe. New highways are popping everywhere, new one almost every year. We have the most malls per capita. As long as you can pay for it, they sell it. Free Internet is everywhere, and yes it is the fastest one in Europe. Sofia, the. Capital has been under complete renovation for the past five years, and I have to say it looks better and better every year. I have worked with foreigners visiting the country for 20 years, and they love the food. Our food is completely organic, if you love Italian, you will love bulgarian food. Italians and Bulgarians ate related, Google all the tens in Italy with Bulgarian names. Bulgaria, Bugare, specially around lake Como. We are temperamental,people with big hearts. My father big wedding, describes not only Greeks, but people on the Balkanskata to a T. Our culture is almost identical. Share there are problems to overcome, but your take on it is grossly inaccurate. Next time go during the summer, not winter, find a person who knows the place and you will see that I was correct. I am sharing this with best intentions at hand, and I am smiling. You know, a sincere smile, not I want to sell you something one!????

      • Not true entirely. As a Hungarian American its easy to like it when you have the option to return to good old Merica any time. But when you’re stuck in Eastern Europe, and you’re a little more liberal than the rest, well, it is a prison regardless which country you go to.

    • Is not depressing at all. Any part from Europe is amazing, even if it’s eastern or western. This article is not very accurate. Is from a very personal perspective. The food from Eastern Europe is so much more healthy than America and americans are so used with the processed food that they do not know the real taste of vegetables and fruits.

    • If you walk down the wrong street in Chicago, you might think the U.S.A is an awful and violent place to live. There is good and bad in everything.

    • Polish American the author is 100% correct. The people are unfriendly, the weather is really bad, food is bland, infrastructure crumbling. I can’t stress enough unfriendly people strong enough. You might have known them for years, or for weeks, you might have done a lot with them. Just can’t trust them. Can’t know when they’ll turn your back on you. In the US I have “tested” friends I know I can trust in any situation. Being born and raised in Poland — just not true.

      Traditional woman — you know depends. What about this — many Eastern European women, especially Russian, Ukrainian, Polish — are taught from very young age that their real “partner in life” is their mother. Not husband. Coming from US, with your naivete, not knowing the place, only after years you might actually discover sad truth. That this culture is much more about mother – daughter relationship. That there is no such thing as partnership in marriage. How different from the Western (US) attitude of looking for a partner in life in relationship. You will be sharing your life with your wife and she in turn will be sharing her life with her mom. And teach the same her daughter. Trade that for feminine and hot looks.

  2. Maverick,

    What do you think about visiting Romania or Serbia in the spring/summer?

    • This article is more about eastern than southeastern Europe — most stuff that he described, I didn’t feel during my visit to Serbia (this summer, 1.5 month stay). Serbia is lovely in the summer, although it can get pretty hot. The food is fantastic — Belgrade is packed with bakeries, and the fruit is phenomenal (especially in the north around the mountain Fruska Gora, where the land is extremely fertile). There are plenty of things to see, from cities like Belgrade to Novi Sad, to natural reserves such as Uvac, to Medieval churches and castles such as Golubac, Mileseva, Gracanica, Manasija, and Studenica.

      I haven’t been to Romania yet, but a family friend from Serbia told me that it’s absolutely gorgeous and better yet, CHEAP 🙂

      Plus, Balkan people are very friendly. For example, since so few outsiders know or care about Serbia, Serbs are delighted when you visit and compliment their country. Being a good host (gostoprimstvo) is a point of pride especially in the rural parts (such as Zlatibor), so no need to worry about unfriendly people.

  3. As someone who is also from EE, I think your take is one of the most accurate around. I could never live in Moscow. You’re the only writer in this area who has accurately described how I feel about that city. I plan on visiting St. P this year, and based on your writing I think I will like it much more.

  4. I’m from Lithuania originally and you’re absolutely correct.… It’s no paradise.

    • Absolutely right, that’s why here in the UK & Ireland we’ve unfortunately millions of Eastern Europeans living, and they’re almost universally disliked due to their plain rudeness and the fact they’ve basically invaded our countries. They’re the cause of Brexit. Eastern Europe is a cesspit.

  5. Very well written critique of the region. I admit that I have never been there, but you do make interesting arguments.

    What about Central Europe like Poland or Hungary? Do they feel “East” European or not so much?

    • I just returned from a 5-day trip to Gdansk, Poland, and I must say that I actually agree with every single point the author makes, especially when it comes to food, architecture and their behavior as human beings…was really hyped before the trip but now im strongly considering not returning there ever.

      • On witch map it is Poland eastern European?

        • Anyone on the opposite side of the Berlin wall is considered an Eastern European. They’ve a clearly defined unlikeable attitude that only those from former communist countries have. They’ve basically invaded the UK & Ireland and are the root cause of Brexit. Eastern Europe isn’t so much a geographical location as it is a state of mind.

      • Well, and ive just came back from 2 weeks stay in Gdańsk too (!) and must completely disagree with You. Completely different city when comparing to the rest cities in Poland, i think theres smth left from the free times of it (been to shady Warsaw and also nice Krakow :)) Spend awesome two weeks, very nice weather for the january, got some weed also from just-made Polish friends 😉 i can totally tell u its not like Eastern Europe!

    • Renner, on what grounds do you assess this article as a “good critique” if you have never been in any country of E Europe? how do you compare the article with the reality?

  6. I think the winter’s getting to you, Mav. Take care of yourself.

  7. Off topic but bears reminding. Eastern European women are not inherently traditional, if anything communism destroyed traditional values long time ago. What makes them seem traditional is their poverty. Most of them are working bees earning a pittance and simply do not have the disposable income and spare time to engage in narcissistic feminism. Watch the high earners in Kiev/Moscow/St Petersburg and they are as toxic as any corporate broad from London or Manhattan.

    Also, Maverick has it wrong. They do not require “actual” dating. Hordes of well earning western men have and till are streaming into EE ravaging their way through the locals. When you are earning say €8K+ and chatting to a local teacher on $300 who’s never been to the sea nor has she any idea of what Parma ham is, the concept of dating is pretty ludicrous.

  8. Damn. No wonder there’s so many Russian and Ukrainian women trying to get the hell out of dodge. Every woman I’ve met from that part of the world just loooooves America. Now I can see why. Plus their value as women here skyrockets given the locals they now compete against as well as the cock-heavy ratios. All around win for them.

  9. *to weigh=to determine the weight of ,as with a scale. Sorry to point that out, otherwise your English is usually spotless. I’d like to add to your description that ppl say you see your surroundings based on your mood.You create your reality.You should smile first and try to be a beacon In Eastern Europe.Finland or Iceland weather sucks too but they don’t have the fame of being unfriendly…

    • I´m from Finland and I can tell you that we do have fame of being unfriendly. And itś unfortunately true..

      • This is a ridiculous blog functionality, I lost all my post after making one simple mistake by not filling my name. I too 2 hours to wrote it!!!

  10. Maverick

    February 6, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Thanks, fixed! And Finland and Iceland aren’t in Eastern Europe. Scandinavia is a much more livelier and friendlier place.

    • There is no place called Eastern Europe. There are different countries with different languages and cultures, but tehy all are most certainly European countries. Their unforture is that they are mostly Russian neighbours and Russians have invaded these countries (and so-called westerners just did’n react in any way – WWII, for example) and let Russians act. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are not Eastern Europe, they are in Northern Europe, just look at the map. It’s discuting to read that kind of nonsense. How abouts Brittons? They seem to be very narrow-minded if you look at them now, in year 2016.

    • Scandinavian “robots” are more friendly? Very funny.
      Then again when you compare people who struggle day by day for food with people that earn 10 times more, my friend, guess who will be friendlier and in a better mood to listen to your irelevant 1st world problems.

  11. I go to EE a few times a year. Great for the women but everyday life and also doing business is no picnic. I’m actually happy to return to my easy life in the US after 2 weeks of drinking and philandering in EE.

  12. Hey Maverick, I’ve been thinking about this really cool theory I hope you could discuss and maybe post in a topic of its own or something, it’s called: “The Market Value of Pussy”.

    My theory is that women tend to be more feminine, attractive, submissive, traditional, etc. in places where their market value is low, for example, in Eastern European Countries.

    This can be for many reasons: Mobility of men to other countries, thus having a higher ratio of women for every man, thus having an over supply, thus generating more competition among them, thus focusing on becoming more attractive to appeal to the low male population.

    I’ve noticed this behavior in central Europe and Eastern Europe and is completely different than in America. The problem I see in America is that in terms of percentage there’s a low percentage of attractive women, women in America are getting fatter and lazier and I’ve witnessed with my own eyes how even fat ugly women have a list of “male candidates”, of course, these guys are no Brad Pitts, but the fact that ugly women can still have a list to choose from in America is alarming. No wonder, many European girls go to the USA and love it, because once they get there they realize they can get any men they want since every man in America gives too much value to the pussy.

    In other words, The Market Value of Pussy in the USA is high, really high.

    I’ve come across that problem in Mexico as well; there are attractive women but in terms of percentage there are not many. I’m currently living in a city with less than 250,000 inhabitants, it is a touristic destination and has a lot of tourists coming by but not staying. I had sex with a girl from here that I met in Cancun and we agreed to go out, then she started giving me excuses until I stopped asking her out and realized she was dating some other guy. Sure, she had a nice butt, but her face was not so good, in fact, she was below the beauty standard of the Czech Republic, for instance, a woman I would normally not pursue in the Czech Republic, and I consider myself to be a great quality prospect, yet here in Mexico her MVP was too high and I blame it on the low percentage of attractive females.

    A way in which we could beat the current Feminazi trends in America and the high MVP would be to make prostitution legal. In this way, there would be sanitary control, wide availability of pussy, and prices would go down. You could go to a nightclub in the USA, fail on picking up a girl and it wouldn’t matter because for $50 you could get a nice girl coming over to your house like an Uber service or something.

    Eventually, this would take power away from women in the USA, the MVP would go down and women would become more receptive and easier to get. This would bring balance back to the society and everybody would be happy.

    • Avillax, why don’t you get a life? Instead of trying to come up with bullshit theories based on Economics 101, you should take some time to think about why the only way for you to get laid is by making prostitution legal? If you are as high quality as you state you are, you wouldn’t be whining about girls in the US not putting out. There is lots of bitterness in your comment and hate aimed at women, probably for turning you down, and you can make up countless lame theories in an attempt to justify why women won’t sleep with you, but the problem is probably you.
      Also, as someone coming from Eastern Europe and currently living in Western Europe, I am telling you you are completely wrong about the value of women in EE. There is no such thing as “high mobility” or whatever your bullshit theory is about, women in EE require more effort than women from Western Europe or the US, precisely because they are more attractive and less “westernized”. And you are a fool to think that women in EE are more submissive. Obviously you’ve never went out with one.
      I don’t know how old this comment is, I hope you have ended up finally getting a nice girlfriend and your hormones have calmed down.
      Cheers.

      • Could you point out where exactly he is being hateful towards women? If what he says is hateful then what can one call your own writing toward him? When did he whine about US girls not putting out or did he imply he couldn’t get laid outside of prostitution?
        Typical feminine shaming tactics.

      • I agree with you. Avillax sounds off. Now, Maverick might be right about the lack of modern conveniences, the bad weather, or even the lame food in Central and Eastern Europe. However, he’s filled with such cliches and thinly vailed contempt that he may be a Westerner using online anonimity to discredit those countries. I’ve met many Slavic people and they have a strong sense of identity and moral values because they have suffered at the hands of genocidal Germanic people or raging Asians. That said, all countries have problems one way or the other and Western countries are no exception. For instance: atheism, family decadence, teen pregnancy, media violence, pornography, drug consumption, alcoholism, aids, racism, and terrorism are a shocking reality with which millions of decent people have to contend with on a daily basis. In other words, some countries may suffer from crumbling infrastructure yet they have a great human element while others may boast sparkling cities and yet they suffer from decaying moral values.

    • Wow, you need to shut THE HELL up. I can’t see *anyone* in *any* country wanting to date someone like you. You want to talk about “traditional”? You talk about women the way a total scumbag in the 1950s would.

    • You have serious issues…..I would get myself checked mate, if I were you. You seriously sound like a creepy weirdo who may turn into a sex offender later on….
      Sure you only get women for money.

    • Gross! Why did I read this comment? I’m from Germany so I’ve probably been spoiled by toxic western values and you don’t have to take me (a feminazi in your world?) seriously. I just wanted to let you know that I’m grossed out by the way you talk about women and that I can see why you’re not happy with your love life if you decide whether you like a girl according to her butt or “below-standard” face. If I date a man, it’s because of his personality and the way he treats me not his “market value”, specific body features, income or other superficial bullshit.

    • Wow, Avillax thinks that femine/submissive women (from Eastern Europe – btw where is that?) are sitting and waiting for him to arrive. Avilax believes that feminine, educated and traditional women who are working for 300$/month would rather be prostitutes.
      Wow Avillax, dream on!
      Speaking of generalisation, women you talk about:
      1. have values (please google: what it means to have values?; what is the difference between values and tradition?”
      2. Most of EE feminine women hold at least one university degree
      3. They can teach you how to read maps and give you lessons in Geography, History etc.
      4. They have expectations from men: education, manners, great taste, values etc.
      5. I highly suggest you to stay where you are, and find a professional who can help you with your manly issues.
      6. The main reason why women “are less feminine in the US is because of ass-holes like Avillax – those who sexually harass, verbally and physically abuse women who reject to talk, hang out or have anything to do with ass-holes.
      7. I wonder was your mama feminine or not so feminine?

  13. Maverick

    February 7, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    @Avillax, Yeah, I’ll have to explore this topic in more detail.

    • You are not a traveler couse you are negative closed mind depressed miserable person without no geographical historical knowledge in which beautiful typical charming romantic American safe and beautiful town you grow up 🙂

      • You put it so right, its like he just picked a few countries and placed them in the trash can becouse he is depressed or isn’t on his medication. I sincerely doubt he actually went to those countries or made the time and effort ti really experience a different culture. I could rant for hours on just how much stupidity I just read, but Im not wasting my time, I think he is a lost case along with so miny of the people who write cimments here. I just wonder does he even know what makes a country thurd world?

  14. @Avillax Prostitution is legal in Germany and the Netherlands yet it has not driven down the SMV of local females. Also, if you’ve known Amsterdam of 30-40 years ago, the current red-light district is a fraction of its former glory. They are currently planning to do without it altogether. Same thing is happening in Germany: loads of brothels are shutting down. Demand is simply not there anymore.

    Porn is killing prostitution.

  15. C’mon! If they don’t sell it at Mindaugo Maxima, you really don’t need it. 🙂

    That’s what I used to say to my girlfriend when we lived in Vilnius, at least. That supermarket has damn near everything. I once did a Cajun crawfish boil with live crawfish I bought there — I was shocked to be able to pull that off in Vilnius, and it went great with the afternoon’s shashlik.

    Joking aside, what you say about the unavailability of certain things in [places like] Vilnius that are ubiquitous in a place like New York is, frustratingly, true. Especially when it comes to cuisine. In the mood for Thai food? Sorry. Something really exotic (I’m being facetious) like Korean? Yeah right (although, there’s a place now in Ozas mall now that serves a passable bibimbap).

    It’s tiring after awhile.

    What I do like is that they don’t stand on ceremony regarding the preparations. For instance, there’s a Chinese restaurant off of Gedimino that has turkey stir fries; I’ve never seen turkey on the menu at a Chinese restaurant in America. (For this same reason, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia is one of my favourite places in the world to eat Indian food — and I say this as a guy who lives in London most of the time! Because they didn’t get the memo about sacred cows, and so they serve beef curry, which would never happen in a European Indian restaurant.)

    Where are you getting those good burgers? Meat Lover’s Pub (next to Cozy)?

    • Maverick

      February 8, 2015 at 8:32 am

      Meat Lover’s Pub is great. However, my favorite burger is at Boom Burgers on Gedimino Prospectas. The meat is simply amazing (medium rare, of course).

  16. James,

    This is one of the best and most informative blog post that I’ve ever read. I’m Native to Poland although I’m a first generation American. Eastern Europe is such a beautiful region, but as you stated it definitely has it’s course of pros and cons. Depending on the country there is both beauty and ugly everywhere it just depends upon adaptability and dealing with physical conditions. Keep up the writing man!

    • Poland is not in Eastern Europe and is far more Westernized than any of the countries mentioned in this article. Poland is geographically and CULTURALLY in Central Europe. It was only lumped in with the East politically.

  17. Very accurate and very true. I was born in Eastern Europe, but moved away with my parents when I was young. Still, it was enough to create unforgettable memories.

    What I find fascinating, though, is the fact that despite the grim reality of life in Eastern Europe my parents still have nostalgic feelings. From time to time they bring up “the good old times” that were not that good at all.

  18. What you say in this article is 100% true, my friend. I was born and still live in east Europe (Bulgaria, specifically) and i know that the nature in my country and all of EE is beautiful, but the mindset of most of the people, living here, absolutely sucks. They constantly think of how to not follow the rules, how to get around the system and not pay for anything, or work less to get money. Eastern Europe is a big pile of shit, always was, and always will be (I speak about most of the people that live there, and the governments that rule them, not about the nature of course).

    • Coming from Serbia, I noticed the “getting around the system” as well — but the situation is nowhere as apocalyptic as you make it out to be.

  19. I happen to be in Kiev at the moment. Just a short while ago I really laid into the receptionist at the front desk owing to the fact that she was acting to damn lazy to reset the internet modem. I requested her to do so on three occasions, she kept saying that it would be working in the morning, meaning she didn’t care to press the button on the modem, she referred to the absence of the internet as a “prophylactic”, so I let her have it about all the mindless shit they watch on TV 24/7; she tried to scold me and I made her back down. This is after I was kind enough to drop off ice cream at the front desk for her and her coworkers enjoyment. They refused the ice cream, as if it were some kind of triumph over me. These are what I call impoverished mentalities. Better minds and attitudes would have accepted the ice cream with grace, whether they chose to eat it or not, and then shown equal consideration when they were required to set the modem, rather than playing a game of petty contest. It is precisely this type of issue that has got me determined to move to an apartment in the financial center, and moving away from the university district. Totally different vibe. The losers here work a 24 hour shift and they are paid garbage wages. And there attitudes reek with resentment. And when you are dealing with such people it is often times a mistake to treat them with kindness and respect; I hate to say that but it has been proven time and again. In another part of town, a very nice part of town, outside of this residential district in which every building is row upon row of dilapidated public housing, high rise, aka ghetto, which is residence to probably 90% of the population, but in the financial district, where I am hoping to find a short term apartment, I asked a barista in a quaint coffee shop if he knew of any short term apartments for rent in the area. He very abruptly told me to search the internet. I paused and then told him that he didn’t live in the area. Because he was clearly resentful of the fact that I was looking for an apartment in a part of town which HE obviously could not afford to live in. I tend to not take short retorts personally, because they generally speak volumes about the person making the comment, and have little to do with me personally, though it is a good mental hygiene to call them out on their bullshit at once. So far, in dealing with the common man in Kiev, I have been advised that if I should encounter a Ukrainian woman, that I should remember that no matter how kind and loving she is to me, no matter how much she professes her love to me, no matter how much she gives of herself to me, that she does not love me but is only interested in me for my money. The two primary negative assumptions being that any Ukrainian woman who would be interested in me is nothing but a gold digger, and that I am not worthy of any woman’s genuine love and affection. Needless to say, the guy who made the comment turned out to be a homosexual. Go figure. In the US, gays and feminists are trying their damnedest to stigmatize heterosexual relationships and turn men and women against one another. And plenty of American women are naïve enough to fall for it, and then they blame men for their misery. How brilliant. Another Ukrainian dude was trying to put himself up on an ominous pedestal, owing to his job description as a collector for a lending agency. He was basically a skinny twerp, a dweeb, who felt powerful calling up people who were behind in their debt. And then there was his comment on marriage, feeling bold about having gotten married, yes, there is always boldness in following tradition and the herd, cough, he described getting married as akin to diving out of an airplane, something he obviously has not done, and he was afraid I would call him on it, but I thought it a shame that he described marriage that way, and he has a 6 year old daughter, and personally, I am already sorry for him owing to the prospect that his wife may ditch him one day and he will find himself crashing to earth. And that, despite the fact that he made comment that the time for marriage had passed me by… I find that guys are always trying to take stabs at other guys, rather than doing what I like to do, which is to offers others encouragement. It just so happens that in doing so, the other individuals ego is so easily inflated, and then they want to further inflate themselves by getting a bit disrespectful, imagining that by doing so they are elevating themselves all the higher above you. The lower down the totem pole they are, the more likely they are to behave in that manner.

    • what you said is all true but you must understand that thanks to the aftermath of ww2 and russia taking over eastern europe forming the soviet bloc nations it’s very conceivable that life ahead for these people was going to be a nightmare for the foreseeable future.

      i have family living in novorossiysk, southern russia on he black sea.

    • Dude, you just described yourself. Get some help ASAP pls…
      “the other individuals ego is so easily inflated, and then they want to further inflate themselves by getting a bit disrespectful, imagining that by doing so they are elevating themselves all the higher above you. The lower down the totem pole they are, the more likely they are to behave in that manner.”

  20. It makes stronger more grateful people ))) I love it there ))

  21. Thank you a thousand times over.

    If I read one more piece over at ROK about how Russia was the new frontier for budding mano-sphereians from the west I’ll puke.

    Having been mixed up in EE’S various wars and gangland savagery over the last two decades…well, it isn’t for the neophyte.

    The kids at the Feral in Moscow once described it aptly (until Putin sent in the OMON and sent them away.)

    “A savage land that eats is children.”

    That said, it had its pluses, but you had better have some really thick skin.

  22. The Exile

    That was the paper.

    They called it like they saw it and the Russians put a boot down on em.

    Best reporting I ever saw.

  23. to james maverick, after reading your article about eastern europe i’m here to say that all is 100% accurate of what you say. i’m born in america but my late parents came from russia and all your stories are not only true but frighteningly correct. people of eastern europe are still in old russia and ww2 still lingers on and doesn’t look like it will disappear anytime soon.

    it’s not their fault they act like this it’s the fact that after ww2 when russia took over these nations and formed the soviet bloc nations life has been unbearable to them and they never recovered from that and there’s no way you can change this attitude and if they ever do change it would be and act of god.

    i think you understand what socialism/communism is so being said that it only makes sense they look like they’ve lost their best friend. whatever you do don’t try to change them it’s something only they can do, sorry but the truth often hurts and most people can’t handle it.

    take care, thomas from ornnge county, ca

  24. I think this whole story is a shit. Are biased and giving the wrong impression of countries in Eastern Europe. You can’t find stuff because you don’t know where to look also people who are coming to the countries should speak the language not English it’s our language and you should respect that. You are making a lot of claims that are untrue. People are not depressed and love living in the countries. And you aren’t looking at all the beautiful architecture. This fucking story is trash like you

  25. Depends….
    I found absolutely everything in EE. You just need to know where to look. Customer service is crap in one place and good in another (comparing Romania, Serbia & Montenegro), but here in Canada service is also terrible and this is from my own experience just recently and on few occasions with smal and large companies.

    Yes, there are uber ghetto places there, but also in this “beautiful” Vancouver BC there are super ghetti places very close to the centre.
    I felt safer in EE than in Paris for example… so it really depends.
    I found the best raw food options in Belgrade, better than in Vancouver (I know, shocking)…. etc etc Also sushi! Believe it or not…. you just have to know where to look.

    And that photo of the market…. fresh food markets in EE are everywhere, year round and have amazing selection of food. A market in a small town in Montenegro had better choice than most cities I was in in this “developed world” and ridiculously fresh food.

    • Serbia and Montenegro aren’t exactly Eastern Europe…

      • haha.
        I would say that Serbia and Montenegro are more Eastern Euro than the Baltic States (Estonia and Lithuania).

      • That statement shows how much you actually know about EE… You know, Serbia is not too different from Bulgaria and this includes food, infrastructure, culture, food and etc.

      • I was almost believing you, until I saw this post. Just delete the article, you not even know where EE is … that is why 75% of this refers to Russia … You American … hamburger eater, at least have some respect for that woman in the picture, for growing and selling her own bio vegetables, something you do not see by living your life in USA …

  26. Dangerous? Eastern Europe? ha, it’s safer than Paris or Brussels full of beggars and criminals (i’m not talking Russia though)

    • I went to Rome for a week and there were beggars everywhere — my dad almost got robbed by gypsies.*

      On the other hand, I go to Serbia every year for 2 months, everywhere from big cities to rural areas… and I don’t see beggars nearly as often, and my family was never touched by criminals.

      *I don’t mean to equate gypsies/Roma with criminals, sorry about that!

    • I lived in Brussels for a year I wouldn’t describe it as dangerous. Although like any city its better to be careful

  27. What the… I think Sofia is much better than the cities I’ve been to in the Western World like London, Amsterdam, Eindhoven, Utrecht, Roterdam and the Hague. So many trees for a capital and the houses and buildings are not bare brick ugly, they have paint on them. Also fewer annoying cyclists.
    I also love the Sredna Gora region (Tserovo specifically) and I think the rural parts of Hungary and Slovakia

  28. Oh my god I wholeheartedly agree!!! I was born in Eastern Europe (I’m 20yo) in one of the countries you mention and I agree with absolutely everything that you said! Eastern Europe is a shithole primitive circus that shouldn’t be considered part of Europe in my opinion. When I left and went to London (England) to study for three years I felt like I had been living on another planet! Eastern European countries lack BASIC necessary things like: paved roads without holes, continuous water and electricity, bathrooms inside the houses, basic good manners, healthy food (as opposed to soaked-in-oil easter european dishes), and tolerance for diversity! As you pointed out, Eastern Europeans are so poor they’re mostly concerned about how to feed themselves on a daily basis, so issues like racism, feminism, LGBT, terrorism, globalisation etc. are rarely and poorly addressed. To give you a real example, my grandparents have no notions of homosexuality or bisexuality (just like people in Africa have no idea what masturbation means), and they would stare and start shouting if they ever saw a black man on the street. Having lived in the Western world, coming home to Eastern Europe and seeing the limitations of people here makes me want to cry! No matter how beautiful some people believe Eastern European countries to be, knowing the true nature and real lives of Eastern European people is depressing enough to ruin holidays. I find England, for example, way more appealing as holiday/travel destination, in spite of the weather, because in addition to beautiful countryside sceneries (that can also be found in Eastern Europe), you will find friendly people in your way, you can’t easily get lost because people will help if you ask for directions, you can be of any race and colour and no one will even remotely look strangely at you, roads are safe, and most land is developed which means you won’t get to a point where the road ends without signs.

  29. Great summary Mav!

    I would take Latin America over EE anyway! I love the better food, sunny weather and sexy women. While EE women do have an edge in physical attractiveness compared to Brazilian and Colombian women, the overall quality of life package in South America blows away the wretched existence in EE.

  30. I lived in the Ukraine. I have to agree customer service in non-existent and it can be depressing when it gets dark at 4 PM in the Winter. The people don’t smile. Medical care is in the dark ages. Yes it is corrupt as hell. I think life could be pretty cheap too. I don’t think the food it that bad though. I got along well with the women and few men I knew.

  31. I think that you’re just a pretentious sissy,James Maverick. I’m sorry there was nobody there to howd wittle James’ hand. Faggot.

  32. Geez.

    You basically outlined, in a very general way, what Eastern Europe is not – the West. Instead of whining about what it is not, perhaps – just perhaps – you should immerse yourself in what it is.

    And, my dear friend, it is not “like the Wild West”. It is the Wild East. And that makes it perfect, does it not?

  33. – In all honesty Germany and Scandanavia are a lot more depressing than Serbia and Croatia.
    – The food sucks there? Ive never had worse food than Swedish meatballs. Have you ever tried Serbian food?
    – No handholding in former Yugoslavia? Seriously you see it a lot more often than in Germany where you either have native German stiffs “respecting” women too much to actually approach them or migrants raping random women like they did in Cologne on NYE.

    LOL @ your comment about how tolerant Sweden and Denmark are. To all except native women since those countries are now the rape capitals of Europe.

  34. Being someone who comes from Serbia, what you describe is pretty accurate when comparing to Serbia – I really don’t understand how some people in the comments say “it’s barely Eastern European” when it is. The weather is horrible, infrastructure is even worse and I don’t understand how people in the comments say that the people are ‘nice’ and ‘happy’ when in truth everyone is sour and bitter and complain non-stop about their problems as though they’re the worst things in the world. Sure the food in restaurants is nice and “cheap” to travellers but to most people living there eating out is a luxury and homemade meals are bland and repetitive (soup, meat, potatoes, bread, repeat) – especially when some people (my grandparents included) live off 20 euros a month. Not to mention, the moment you exit out of Belgrade or Novi Sad, you cannot even drink water from the tap, and the long hot showers you would be used to in a more developed country are diminished to quick 3 minutes ones in order for everyone to have enough hot water to bathe. Also if you think it’s safe then you are mistaken – watch the news and that’ll be enough to convince you otherwise.

  35. Andorra is far from a destitute poor country my dear.
    In fact people there all have a job and actually pretty wealthy.
    Get facts right first, other than that is a great article, Europe has a good share of third world areas…..

  36. Having been to 68 countries I agree with most of this article.

    But there’s a but.

    There’s no war in Europe. Ukraine is Ukraine and no matter how much the EU technocrats and Hillary’s NATO neocons want it to be Europe and no matter how many revolutions they start there, it simply isn’t and never will be.

    I guess Belarus wil be next to be “Europanized” and NATOnized. Just keep poking the Russian bear and see what happens. But guess that’s the whole point. Weapons are only sold for a purpose so a purpose must be created.

  37. To be honest, Scandinavia and Germany could be a lot more boring and depressing than countries like Montenegro, Bulgaria, Croatia. For example I have been to Nessebar and Golden Sands, Bulgaria and it was really awesome – sunny, people were relaxed, friendly and smiling, food was good, a lot of outdoor activities, water sky, beach volleyball, etc. The only bad thing were the drunk British tourists… I have also visited towns in northern Bulgaria (away from the coast) – I was in Ruse for 3 days. The atmosphere was so calm and relaxed, people were taking walks in the park, jogging, children were playing and it didn’t seem depressing at all. It is safe (in my opinion safer than cities like Paris and Brussels) Tap water is 100% drinkable. There are stalls selling icecream, corn, hotdogs. You have all the shops and products that you have in western Europe.
    You also have to visit Dubrovnik (Croatia) and Budva (Montenegro). They are really awesome. 🙂

  38. What about fucking off and never coming back? Nobody has time for whiny fools like you.

  39. This is a hilarious, and sadly true article. I was born in Romania and we were able to escape during the collapse. Throughout most of my youth I innocently imagined it to be some kind of ideological Utopia where I would feel true belonging; my male cousin thought the same thing. I think we both had the same reaction to visiting there – an extreme desire to escape.

    I think the poverty, corruption, disengagement from building a better world, for lack of a better phrase – still stems from the damage the Communists did to the area; that’s my only guess. 2nd generation Romanians in America seem much more sane, like you can finally witness what the people would have been like without their toxic past.

    A word about seeking to sexually exploit women in Eastern Europe. It’s possible you might have success with that, but, you’d really have to examine what kind of person you are to take advantage of people in dire economic straights just to temporarily please yourself; my mother knew women who out of desperation became mail order brides and were horribly abused by their American husbands. So its kind of a despicable motive to go there – and I’ll be the first to tell you you are gross gross gross!

    But if you are the kind of slime who has such intentions – you may have to become more lax about your idea of “traditional”; the last time I went there I was surprised to see everyone dressed basically kind of like strippers (high heels, short short dresses, excessive make-up – trashy, in effect). Additionally, since everyone is corrupt there from the street sweeper to the cops, what kind of ethics do you think such a woman is going to bring to your “union” so to speak? And I highly doubt any Romanian woman is so stupid as to have a one night stand – but maybe I’m wrong, so you’ll be hitched to this kind of glammy superficiality for the rest of your life.

    And make no mistake it doesn’t come free. Nobody is a thin waif without incurring mental illness (and it abounds there); the woman that looks so good, guaranteed, will come with a set of neuroses you probably can’t even imagine if you come from a non-third world country. And a narcissism that will probably make you redefine the boundaries of the word.

    If you’re a woman for some reason seeking in this sector of the world, my only suggestion would be to get out. I would not wish a relationship with a man raised in such a culture on anyone – it would be filled with demeaning commentary, physical abuse, and a total incapacity for selfless love. Fidelity, commitment, and family values were, sadly, effectively snuffed out by the Communists.

    Anyway, I don’t blame the people their for their behaviors, for the trash on the street, for the constant partying and drunkenness and lack of spiritual cohesion, for everyone giving you the finger and trying to kill each other driving insane speeds on the highway, for corrupt priests with flashy cars extorted from poor peasants – for any of that. But one thing is for certain – it’s not a “tourist attraction” – unless you want to see what happens after Marxists take over.

    Hopefully someone can fix it in time.

    • You’re a second generation American yet you can’t even speak English properly. Loool ok RIP grammar and spelling. Just out of curiosity, since you can’t speak English nor Romanian, what exactly can you do?

      • And by the way, I am not talking about you. I’m talking about those “second-generation” Americans you mentioned in your post. As far as it goes, every second generation has the same problem. Uneducated fools that were provided with an opportunity to better themselves yet they become more and more stupid.

      • Dear Bianca, as I can clearly see you come from Romania and to me this is a fantastic opportunity to present the people with the idiotic fate Romanians have due to their frustration and ignorance. I really believe you’d know some English, however your skills are still alien in order to be able to criticize and correct the grammar of a US born citizen. As a matter of fact, this is the cause you guys experience your fate: you are truly ignorant, frustrated and besides you damn love to show off. James, Birmingham.

  40. I like these honest thoughts.
    No 3 (DIFFICULT TO COMMUNICATE) and 6 (UGLY, CRUMBLING ARCHITECTURE) are particularly spot on.
    Women there were beautiful indeed, but I don’t think I could stay there comfortably without getting familiar with their language and environment, which would take a very long time.

  41. You are a tosser.

  42. I really like your write up. Having traveled and lived round these countries I can’t agree more. I see most people have picked up on your comments about the likely hood of getting laid. As a male I know that the first or second question men ask when discussing another country is ‘what are the women like’ (women also do this in opposite by the way). So I think your comments are completely legitimate. Any man who thinks otherwise is a queer.

  43. I agree with many things, but this is far from true for many countries. Poland is much more western than that. And yes having the right connections opens doors, this has been so even before democracies replaced aristocratic rule.

    I am an ethnic Pole who grew up in the western world, I experienced both, and mostly western Europeans have either a disinterested or antagonistic view to Eeastern Europe.

    Moody people can be found across Germany and many Americans feel somehow strange when they first arrive there.

    But yeah western romanticism about Eastern Europe is far from reality and in most cases it is spawned from very good hospitality enjoyed.

    I saw few guys who talked to women on the bus, they neither looked ugly, dangerous or anything else, and since there were plenty of people it was safe to have a chat, but in all cases the women ignored the guy totally.

    It is the same case in the west, you bond with people by introduction by mutual friends. It is hard work to befriend people and breaking ice is hard work no matter where.

  44. For a weak and stupid individual eastern europe is no good. For others it is the place to be now.

  45. Degenerated immigrant shithole called “western europe” is for sure the worst place to live now. Lived in both, prefer the east anytime. People are more intelligent and true in the east, much more friendly and honest.

    West is dead, it’s over. Start learning Quran and get used to that your child is the only white kid in it’s class. East is what west used to be before it degenerated and went to garbage.

  46. Politicians are much smarter in east too. I am glad to live in a “not tolerant” country that tries not to help the whole of Africa.

    What i’ve seen from the anti-immigration protests in UK and Germany people are not too happy to live a degenerated immigrant shithole aka western europe.

  47. As a Serbian American, I can’t agree with you Maverick. I been in a more than 70 countries, all around the world, and I can say that everything depends on you and on your individual perception. I never saw country or region for what I can say that is perfect. Of course some parts of the world I like more than other. For Serbia, I can say that weather is preaty nice and calm, with no huge extreme conditions. People are friendly, and always happy to meet foreigners…. Food??? Obviously you didn’t try the right one.

  48. Are you one of the Walmart People? I never was able to find handhel digital or mechanical scales in Walmart. I don’t remember seeing one there.

  49. Are you describing Slovakia? Because I live here and everything you said match with this place!

  50. Absolute nonsense of the review. Makes me wonder what was the budget you were living on? In Russia an Bulgaria the food is amazing . You can also buy any gadgets you want in any mall. People are very friendly, just need to speak the language. It is the same in the US. I wouldn’t go far just speaking russian.

  51. This is such a superficial and ignorant description of “Eastern Europe”. It’s like referring to “Western Europe” as one entity.
    You can’t compare the cuisine in the Balkans or Hungary with the one in the Baltics. Yes, there are some similar histories, but the so called “Eastern Europe” is very different from one country to another, both in cultural and economical terms. Some things work better, some worse than in the “West”. This guy is based in Vilnius, and many of his opinions are preconceived notions gain in that region (ex soviet countries).
    And that “WOMEN AREN’T AS EASY YOU THINK” is pure disgusting.

  52. Amazing post! It is all true what ou have written here! I was born in Vilnius and have spent 20 years here until I got out to see the world just to realize that I only existed before. I immigrated to North America from this depressive place and understood what is a joy of life. I appreciate all the small things now, as simple as just a sunny day (because I had enough of living in that gloomy darkness in Vilnius). Anyway, thanks again for the incredible post and the ugly truth! Wish you all the best!

  53. This is bullshit. Ať first I thought you are English ( considering some stupid description). Well either you are British or American, you cannot compare nice european architecture and your with no soul, every building the same. Secondly why do you expect everybody Will speak english? Very selfish. After few years spent in England I am even moře proud for my country- this country Is full of narrow-minded people who know just their own country And their own language. Without foreigners you would be nothing. Just think of how many things you are using daily arent originally from your country. And who said english Is the most important language? You? How many languages can you speak? Im totally disgusted from this article And I just Hope you will be annoyed little bit from my answers..

  54. Being from Poland, I think this article is a load of crap, quite frankly, and I think a lot of perception comes from unmet expectations (infrastructure, gadgets, lack of communication because noone speaks YOUR language, uneasy ladies) – have you complained about all these flaws in Thailand or Brazil? Not all the people speak English there. Infrastructure is not great either… But because the sun is shining all year round, you weren’t complaining about crumbling buildings or people who can’t say “hi” in your native tongue. But could you in theirs? As far as cuisine goes, it is not very healthy, but neither is Italian food, and if you know what to look for it can be very tasty indeed. And you don’t only go to EE solely for the cities (which were clearly ruined by WWII and half a century of communism), of which some are still real gems IMO, but also for the unrivalled nature, forests, mountains like nowhere else… And people in these areas are also much more friendly (but again they probably speak even less English, so you wouldn’t be bothered).

    With one thing I must agree though, and it is the attitude of a lot of people from EE, which is complaining and moaning about everything East, and praising and seeing only honey and milk in the West – and this is clearly visible here in the comments, where EE-people are bemoaning about their home countries. Like if getting out of there was like winning a one-way ticket to paradise out of that terrible hell they’ve been born in… This is a truly remarkable thing about some East Europeans – they can’t appreciate their own homeland.

    To sum up, the author is to me an utter twat who clearly doesn’t have a clue. And complaining about the weather in a particular part of the world is a great example of that… If the weather was the only factor, then the whole world would live at the level of the Med.

  55. i must admit i will never ever go there. even the women in american they are eastern european are smelling garlic eating tall gargantuan feed hairy shemales. no thanks

  56. Kate, if you dislike England and the British so much, why live here?
    Every building looks the same?
    Errr, have you seen some of the stunning cities like Bath or visited any of the incredibly beautiful rural villages?
    Google ‘Beautiful English villages’ and then say all buildings look the same.
    Narrow minded? Hahaha! Sorry, that’s a myth – far too liberal is more like the truth and I say that simply because, as very tolerant and pretty laid back people, we do object to the minority groups telling the majority how to live their lives.
    Britain is an island; of course it’s different. Unlike Europe (East or West) we’re not joined onto a dozen other countries; however, we are multi-cultural and have been for eons.
    You can buy or eat food from just about any country in the world and no matter where you come from, you’ll find other people from your country to talk to – in cities at least.
    And you’ll get help to find them – Brits do like being helpful!!
    You’ll find shops selling goods from your country; places of worship; leaflets and information written in a million different languages.
    Homosexuals are free to live their lives in peace (whatever your views on the subject) – narrow minded? Come off it!!!
    The world made the English language so important – it’s the language of Business. But yes, Brits do tend to be a bit lazy at learning other languages, probably because most other countries do speak English.

    I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but London is so full of foreigners it’s getting hard to spot a Brit – the same can be said for most cities in England and parts of Scotland.
    And please, take a little look at everything Britain has invented over the centuries– things that are in common use in every other country.
    There is also a lot of (hidden) poverty in Britain, like there is in any country. The North of England has some of the friendliest people going; people who’ve had very hard lives. They appreciate the small things too, rather than the material goods – they’d give a stranger their last slice of bread.
    Yes our weather is crap; prices are high, parking is a pain in the ass and don’t mention our lager louts…
    Pros and cons!!!!
    People coming to Britain get free health care, free education for their kids and a wealth of other things; immigrants get free interpreters for crying out loud.
    What I found ironic is that you’re slagging the blogger for his opinion, yet you’ve done the same hatchet job on Britain – the place you, a non-Brit, live???
    And for your information, a lot of Brits (but not all) envy aspects of Easter European countries. The fact that children can play safely in the streets in the evening; the family orientated lifestyle, just to mention two things.
    We have a great appreciation for EE Arts, Science, Music, Literature, and Poetry.
    So if you really have such a negative view of England, why live here?
    Every country in the world has its good bits and bad bits. Many people often think the grass is greener somewhere else, only to find out it’s just a different type of grass!

    And I totally agree with other comments about ‘how easy women are’ – get a life guys, you sound like sad, desperate sleaze bags! Any wonder women don’t want to drop ‘em for you???

  57. wow mate you.ve been living under a rock or something. the only valid points you had were the ones suggesting the countries being poor and under developed.

    But food? Hahaha sure it’s shit if you buy from market, but EE has something other places don’t: healthy products. You can literally go to any village and ask for chicken, pork, vegetables and whatever you want. Also all countries have traditional foods that are tasty as hell, I really think you are tripping.

    Ye, women aren’t as easy as americans because they have assets and they know how to play. Trust me, if you know how to talk, you’ll have more fun than gang banging 3 american chicks.

    I just feel sorry that if you didn’t get laid cuz you are some pretentious ass hole that thinks people should submit to some cheap ass entrepeneur idiot, you just start moaning and crying about it. Ye, THAT is why girls aren’t easy for your pussy ass.

    • Well said GiGi.
      Why is it that (some) men ‘expect’ to get laid???

      The highlight of the holiday ‘I managed to get laid!’ Sad………

      And pretty insulting that they just see women as a quick f*ck!
      Get a life guys – try a little respect!

  58. Don’t know how old this is but I feel the need to comment. I’ve never been to any of the former bloc countries, but I find them fascinating and your review seemed a bit insulting. I used to live in a really backwater mining town in Australia, it was basically owned by a mining company. It was old, run down, poor, crumbling, the landscape was destroyed by almost a century of acid rain. Depressing weather, etc. Everyone told me that it was a horrible ugly place full of unfriendly people and to never move there. But I did, and yes, when I first arrived everyone stared at me cause they didn’t know me. And there was no customer service or help around, people told me to piss off cause I was a tourist/blow in. But once I smiled and said hello and got to know the town and people I fell in love with it. I think that maybe some of these countries would be just like that. They are sick of people bagging them out all the time and having pity on them for living in their ‘ugly’ towns. These days when people bag out my town I shoot them down. Smile, say hello. I’ve been in countries where they don’t speak English (and they shouldn’t be expected to!) but a smile is universal.

  59. I accidentally came across this article and decided to leave a comment. I am a Bulgarian living in Bulgaria and I have travelled quite a lot around the world (still mostly in Europe though, but there are few countries in Europe which I haven’t visited). While there is some truth in every point the author makes, the article is a generalization about a very large and very diverse part of the world based in the most negative extremes. If you go to the worst neighbourhood in New York, describe it in 13 points and say “It’s like that in the whole US” you will get the same article. However the author doesn’t do that but does exactly the same for Eastern Europe, which makes me think that the author is one of the many Eastern Europeans who moved to the West and are deeply ashamed of their Eastern European roots and do their best to pretend they are not actually Eastern Europeans by denouncing anything stereotypically Eastern European.

    So how are things really in Eastern Europe from my perspective of an Eastern European living in Eastern Europe? The lives of the majority of people in Eastern Europe are not different in principle than the lives of Westerners. Many people earn pretty good money here and have the same or even higher standard than Western Europeans. Many people, especially younger people, travel and study abroad and they have a pretty broad view about the world, speak foreign languages etc etc. Of course there are things to be improved bit if you compare my country now to what it was 20 years ago, the difference is enormous. Last point, there are perhaps about 20 different countries in Eastern Europe and in may aspects it is very hard to generalize, but what I said above is true for all of them. So while I admit Eastern Europe is not Heaven on Earth, it is not hell either and this article is quite an exagerration of prevalent stereotypes which the author seems to have looked for.

    • Well said, Ivan.

      I haven’t been to Eastern Europe yet, although I’m looking forward to visiting Russia later in the year.

      But I do have many Eastern European friends, in different countries and different parts of Russia too.
      One of the biggest complaints friends have is the roads- in very poor condition. And also lower wages compared to the west – but they forget that the cost of living is higher in the west.
      Property is far cheaper in EE, as are certain utility bills, car fuel, internet and so on.
      What I like so much about EE is there’s no PC bullshit.
      Gender roles seem clearly defined, by choice. Although that doesn’t put restrictions on the type of work people do. I know of a female in Russia with a high powered job, that would be reserved for a man in the UK (99% sure of it!) although the Russian woman still gets a pretty low wage.
      A man in the UK would almost certainly be paid more, than a woman here, doing the same job.
      * Equality in the west seems more of a myth – an excuse for a genderless society, but with wage (and other) discrimination.
      Eastern Europeans are much more family orientated; men respect women and I find most very charming, very courteous and very sweet and open once they get to know you.
      In many ways EE and her people have far more innocence, something that is sadly missing in the liberal west.
      Of course, there are good and bad points in every country – good and bad people too.
      And while I love Britain, I miss the old Britain, the REAL Britain – where feminists didn’t scream abuse at men for holding open a door; where women could be women and not simply work horses; where Britain was a free country, without parts of it being ‘no go zones’ for white British; where we were able to have all kinds of harmless, funny banter without being reported by the PC brigade.
      Maverick traveller has addressed some of these western issues in a new posting – well worth a read for all those who long for western living 🙁
      The West Is On The Path To Self-Annihilation – By James Maverick

      https://mavericktraveler.com/west-self-annihilation/
      I know where I’d prefer to live!!

  60. Hi Mav: My impressions of Eastern Europe: Sophia and Kiev.

    Sophia, I got invited by a girl I was nailing in Mexico, I found out in Sophia that she was running a prostitution business in London and probably an ex prostitute herself, she basically abandoned me in her tiny apartment. Sophia was dark, weird, and ugly, I ended up leaving as if I were running for my life.

    I’m currently in Kiev now: Yes it is full of beautiful women but the fantasy is gone now: most girls I met on the internet were not pretty in real life, the pretty ones are harder to get and don’t trust foreigners, the city looks the way it was when it was a communist country: crumbling, crappy, gray architecture, the metro system gets you back to 70’s communism, the food is cheap but bad, everything is bad, even the street performers who dress as statues have crappier make up than the rest of Europe. There’s this sort of depressing, crappy vibe, I don’t even feel like going out of my apartment anymore, coming here for women it is not worth it, it actually made me rethink my life: women are not everything.

  61. Mitchell Clinderbell

    December 12, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    Sofia – the ugliest city on planet Earth! True, can’t get anything more adequate than that. That dirty “city” reminds me of a pigsty, where people (that’s how the pigs living there are often called) are so damn stupid and IGNORANT. What truly makes me laugh is the way Bulgarians try to pose as high-class individuals contracting bank credits in order to have a posh car. That is so hilarious and I somehow pity those nitwits providing low-life future for their kids. They purely love to be slaves, to buy expensive clothes and cars but live in dirt, lack of infrastructure and be treated in miserable hospitals. Not a joke though, last time I’ve been trough Bulgaria a stray dog got my leg so I had to visit a hospital. Damn, I was truly horrified, Bulgarian hospitals look worse than cow barns.

  62. This is one of the worst and disinforming articles i have ever read .

    EAST EUROPE IS BEAUTIFUL ..OFC IF YOU ARE RICH ENGLISHMAN U DONT UNDERSTAND OUR CULTURE

    everybody who wants to see a real europe , not that sold out west europe that has lost its idendity , come to east europe !!!

  63. Moving to Poltova

    April 25, 2018 at 2:57 am

    I am an Eastern European American. Eastern Europe is even worse than this article lets on.

    But it does not matter becuase Western Europe is dead. Collective suicide via virtue signaling altruism and brainwashing.

    Millions of years of genetic evolution. Millennia of rich culture, Inventions, civilizations and histories a billion libraries could not contain. All gone in 100-300 years. Why?

    Becuase Western Europeans are afriad of being called “racist”.

    Who would have ever thought this is how it would all end? In a few hundred years Western Europe will be gone from this virus.

    They feel so morally self righteous. So virtuous. And Once it starts it never stops. You can’t reverse it. You can’t get it back. You cannot unscramble eggs.

    Blink of eye in a nature.

    I will take Eastern Europe and it’s problems over Western Europe for my future home. I am white and Christian. My children will not be brainwashed. My grandchildren will not be passively negrified while i quiver in fear over losing my job convicted by media in a golem kangaroo court of public opinion – becoming homeless on street while my children are taken by the state becuase police charged me for racist hate crime and I was found guilty – becuase I was reported by a white neigbor for making a comment.

    My neighbor has proved she is not racist by reporting me. And now she feels so morally virtuous. Or maybe she not like me. Or maybe she want my house. Or my apple tree. Or maybe she just like the feeling of power it gave her. That is the fuel they use for self reporting system. Just like they did in the old USSR!

    Yes. That is how insane this will get. Macron , the EU Zionists, the American deep state, Israel, and all globalists have formally stated the goal is to race mix ALL races of men under thier rule.

    As insane as this sounds it is the truth from thier own lips – becuase they belive thier offspring will remain “pure” and rule over a one world brown mass with a low IQ and no identity. Not my words! Thier words !

    Again. This is not me saying this. This is them saying this. Look up French President force race mixing.

    Eastern Europe and Russia is all that is left. That is why they are surrounding Russia woth NATO for eventual war. This is about power. It will be war – or forced 3rd world immigration. That is the goal. They do not need armies and soldiers when same result is accomplished by mass 3rd world migration. Not my words ! Thier words !

    I don’t care if there is poverty , high crime, bland food, unfriendlyness, every man for himself, and dog eat dog. As long as this exists – My great grandchildren will be Christian and white.

    Does this offend you? If yes look deep inside yourself and ask yourself why.

  64. Two things:
    One in Eastern Europe we have the best food except maybe in Arabia. Not sure where you got those simple foods maybe a fast food but there is plenty of variety in a restaurant.
    Second you sound like a spoilt dumb kid. Life is tough so what? No one will hold your hands because they have their own things that need done and you are expected to act as an adult.

    Regarding the subway not sure how can you get confused about that. 6 years old children can figure it out and you cannot?

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